It Makes No Sense
I have a question that I am hoping someone can answer. I recently watch
Episode III and I don't understand a few things at the end of the movie. Why did Yoda and Obi-wan go into hiding? Neither one killed the Sith they went out to kill and they both decided to hide instead of lead the rebellion against the empire. It seems to me that with two of the most powerful jedi that the rebellion would have stood a chance and been able to mount of fight, instead of having to wait 20 years or so until Luke was able to fight. What good did Yoda do anyone on the planet that he went to. He didn't do one thing, in fact it seems that he probably went crazy. Secondly, when Obi-wan took Luke to Tatuin why did he never speak to Luke, and why did the uncle refer to Obi-wan as some lonely hermit? I don't understand why Obi-wan wouldn't have trained Luke from a young age. I hope someone can answer these question because my finite brain can't comprehend them.
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Interestingly enough, we watched Revenge of the Sith just last night, so your questions are fresh in my mind.
First of all, I must once again state my 10+ rating of the film. Yes, the acting is often bad, but the power and scope and beauty of the film is . . . (to use an Adam phrase). . . astounding and dazzling. Plus, it was the keystone film of the most successful and popular series in cinematic history, and it was able to pull off a very difficult task in being a great stand alone movie, as well and tying the whole franchise together. Everyone knew Anakin was going to fall, but the human anguish it portrayed in his seduction to the Dark Side was mesmerizing and gut-wrenching. As you can see, I'm a big fan.
That being said, your two questions are not so much a reflection of the 3rd film as they are of the 4th, 5th, and 6th. Lucas had to tie them all together, but it was impossible to make every instance a perfect fit, so some of the tie-ins strain credibility.
But in the imperfect world of Star Wars: Obie-Wan and Yoda were reeling from their inconclusive battles with Darth Sidious and Annakin. The Emperor was already consolidating his powers, growing stronger. All the other Jedi in the galaxy had been destroyed. With their infinite Jedi wisdom, they knew that they two must survive, so as to teach the ways of the force to Luke and Leia when they were grown, and then hope they could fulfil the prophecy about Anakin bringing balance to the force. They had foreseen it.
In other words, they retreated so they could live to fight another day, a day when the twins would be grown and the Rebellion would be stronger. As it turns out, they were right! (See Episode 6)
As for Obie-Wan being a hermit and not talking to Luke on Tatooine, I think that was just a poor tying-up of a loose end, but what else could Luca do? They couldn't go back to 1976 and re-film the first Star Wars, so they're just hoping people like you don't remember those little details.
Interestingly enough, we watched Revenge of the Sith just last night, so your questions are fresh in my mind.
First of all, I must once again state my 10+ rating of the film. Yes, the acting is often bad, but the power and scope and beauty of the film is . . . (to use an Adam phrase). . . astounding and dazzling. Plus, it was the keystone film of the most successful and popular series in cinematic history, and it was able to pull off a very difficult task in being a great stand alone movie, as well and tying the whole franchise together. Everyone knew Anakin was going to fall, but the human anguish it portrayed in his seduction to the Dark Side was mesmerizing and gut-wrenching. As you can see, I'm a big fan.
That being said, your two questions are not so much a reflection of the 3rd film as they are of the 4th, 5th, and 6th. Lucas had to tie them all together, but it was impossible to make every instance a perfect fit, so some of the tie-ins strain credibility.
But in the imperfect world of Star Wars: Obie-Wan and Yoda were reeling from their inconclusive battles with Darth Sidious and Annakin. The Emperor was already consolidating his powers, growing stronger. All the other Jedi in the galaxy had been destroyed. With their infinite Jedi wisdom, they knew that they two must survive, so as to teach the ways of the force to Luke and Leia when they were grown, and then hope they could fulfil the prophecy about Anakin bringing balance to the force. They had foreseen it.
In other words, they retreated so they could live to fight another day, a day when the twins would be grown and the Rebellion would be stronger. As it turns out, they were right! (See Episode 6)
As for Obie-Wan being a hermit and not talking to Luke on Tatooine, I think that was just a poor tying-up of a loose end, but what else could Luca do? They couldn't go back to 1976 and re-film the first Star Wars, so they're just hoping people like you don't remember those little details.
Mark's post is nonsense. Now let me, the master of film interpretations, the hole finder in any film, the master of finding every little flaw in any film every made......I will straighten this out for your overwhelmed brain.
First of all, let me say that George Lucas was an atheist and so he made this film to support his view of a higher power that controls the whole universe (the Force) and denying that there is a supreme being.
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With that understanding all becomes clear and we can see how this all fits together. First of all, Yoda is good but he knew he and Obi Wan could never beat both Darth Sidius and Darth Vader; he being a short green guy and Obi being a loyal friend to Anakin to which he couldn't kill him. He basically saw the light and bailed. He went to some obscure swamp planet to live in a cave and repeat over and over "Lost it is' and "Crazy I am" and slowly went stark raving mad. It was by just plain dumb luck that Luke ever found him again and thank goodness for R2D2 who crashed the fighter on purpose on that planet to start the training of Luke from a little guy who talked funny.
Now as for when Anakin took baby Luke to his uncle. He never told the uncle who he was or where he came from. The uncle didn't know who Luke was or his genealogy and his step-dad never wanted him to leave the farm so he never pursued it to find out who Luke was. Actually he thought they would only have him for a few weeks and before you know it, Luke is 20 some years old. Time flies. As far as he knew Luke was a orphaned boy and he was doing Obi Wan a favor. Plus he needed help on the farm. (the generators on the north 40 kept going south on him and Luke could fix them)
As for Obi Wan, he knew he was a beaten man and that with only 2 Jedis left in the entire universe it was over. He resigned himself to a life of solitude and meditation so that he could live out his days in peace. He wanted to forget that his prodigy and friend had betrayed the Republic and all it stood for. He also betrayed the Jedi Code and for this, Obi Wan rent his coat and totally obliterated Anakin from his memory. He simply forgot everything and like Yoda went senile and stark raving mad as a result. When he heard his name again (spoken by Luke when they first met) it jogged his memory and he was able to slowly remember who he was and act accordingly. Over a period of 20 years the Uncle who never knew about Luke's heritage simply forgot about Obi and before you knew it, he was a faded memory and a crazy old hermit.
There you have it. All loose ends tied up.
Lose no more sleep over it, you will.
Obi Wan Dad
Everyone knows that Yoda went stark raving mad and went off his rocker. However, I don't think Obi wan went crazy he just lost 90% of the function of his elbows.
AD
I haven't a clue how Dad knows GL is an atheist, much less why it's relevant. But allow my 2 cents:
Addie, I think you're onto something. You've discovered a logical hole in the Star Wars cosmos that I'd never considered before. I think Mark's explanation that Obi-Wan and Yoda went into hiding to fight another day makes a certain kind of sense, but that's kind of a reach, don't you think? More likely, GL just didn't have any other way of tying the films together.
The bigger question, and one that I have never heard answered, is this: why on Earth did GL make episode IV first? I mean, the guy who played Anakin wasn't even born when the Star Wars was made in 1977.
Then again, an even larger question looms: why the heck should anybody care? It's a moneymaking Hollywood franchise and an artifact of American pop culture, but in the big scheme of things it's just another entertaining story.
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